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Farnham NHW Coordinators Meeting Minutes 20 June 2017

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Hi Everyone

Sorry I have taken so long in Circulating the Meeting Minutes to you all but I have been really busy with 2 more Coordinator Meetings to arrrange and also host.  Hopefully you will have by now have had time to reflect on what was said and the reaction. I was pleased that everyone attending is really committed to the future of NHW in Farnham I will be contacting you all plus the other Coordinators that could not be with us last time to meet up in September/ October when at that time I will have a senior officer available in attendance so he or she can explain in more detail the Police position and also address your conserns

Once again many thanks for your support and I am glad to see that NHW is still alive and flourshing in Farnham

Kind regards

Malcolm Taylor  Waverley MSA


Waverley Neighbourhood Watch

Farnham NHW  Coordinators Meeting :- Tuesday 20 June 2017 - 19.30 hrs

Farnham Leisure Centre Dogflud Way Farnham Surrey GU97UD

Meeting Minutes

Neighbourhood Watch Coordinators Present

Valery Fabry                    Red Lion Lane

Shelagh Bone                  Hazell Road

Iain Braid Smith                Fullers Road

R.G. Precious                   Fullers Road

John Brindley                   Lanhope Drive

Mike Ellis                           Bridgfield & Fairfield

Mark Finney                     The Close

Gerald Turner                  Beam Hollow

Michael Bradford            Sandy Lane Rushmore

Mike Gane                      Farnham Park Close

Maggie Sheil                   Green Lane Churt

William Sheil                     Green Lane Churt

Lee Hicks                          Heath Lane (North)

Keith Miller                       Old Park Lane

Debbie Greenhill             Upper Weybourne

Allen Parratt                     Upper Bourne Lane (North end)

Paula Blake-Pied             Westbury Gardens                              


Surrey Police Officers Present


PCSO John Francis Surrey Police Neighbourhood Team


In Attendance


Malcolm Taylor                          Multi-Scheme Administrator for NHW in Waverley Borough

Anthony Fielding                        NHW Watch Coordinator for Ripley and Police Volunteer in Guildford.


Martin Stilwell                             Multi-Scheme Administrator for NHW Surrey and Woking.


Apologies for Absence


My Shultz Spencer, David Davies, Helen Buck & John Coutts



Malcolm Taylor  Opened the meeting and welcomed and thanked everyone that had made the effort to attend this  meeting on one of the hottest nights of the year. Malcolm then explained how things had now changed regarding the way the Police and NHW are going to have to work together in the future. After much though it was felt that as Waverley is the largest Borough in Surrey, it would be best served by establishing four centres in the Borough , Cranleigh ,Farnham, Godalming & Haslemere, the villages and other areas could be looked after by the nearest or most appropriate “Town” organisation, Hopefully there will be some local volunteers to head up these four centres.


As a result of the many Police changes and the closure of the Active Citizens Scheme sadly the NHW membership had significantly reduced and further recruitment was really necessary now. These working arrangements being suggested for how NHW would be organised within Waverley has been successful already in Haslemere, Woking, & Guildford and a similar system has also been successful in the Surrey Heath area.


The suggested proposals and changes in the way NHW and the Police will be working in the future was not warmly welcomed by the meeting and as a result the discussions broadened to show large disappointment by many of the NHW Coordinators in attendance. Many Coordinators making the point that in the last two years there has been almost a complete breakdown in contact between the NH Watches and the local Police and would the proposed changes rectify that issue.


At this point Malcolm Taylor invited PCSO John Francis to address the meeting from the Police perspective.



Local Safer Neighbourhood Police Officer Crime - PCSO John Francis



PCSO Francis   Firstly John confirmed that the Crime rate in the Farnham area was relatively low which is good to know.


Having listened to what the meeting was saying, John Francis responded by underlining the position that Surrey Police had now realised that in implementing the new working arrangements which were placed on them within the new Policing Polices, had, unfortunately distanced the Police far too far away from NHW and the public. This really was not what the Police wanted intended to do as the Two-Way dialogue is so important to crime solving but circumstances and lots of Police re-training and introduction of new working practices within the Police had meant that somethings had just unfortunately just slipped too much. 



Loss of contact between NHW and Police has now been recognised at all levels within the Surrey Police Force so now there is to be maximum effort to re-engage with NHW also with the general public as it is so important to have that relationship and trust established.


Malcolm Taylor mentioned in his experience as a NHW Coordinator over the last two years, he also had also seen this separation, but added that since being appointed the MSA for Waverley he had seen real change and received great support from EVERYONE in Surrey Police.




Important Note:- Since the Meeting I have been informed the PCSO John Francis has gained permission for him or a colleague to contact in the near future and visit EVERY NHW Coordinator that attended the meeting at Farnham to discuss their needs and concerns.




Tony Fielding Police Volunteer


Tony gave a short description if what tasks and duties he performs as a Police volunteer for Surrey Police at Guildford, compiling the Crime details and other data which hopefully will assist the Police to combat the crime in the area as well as let NHW Coordinators have up to date information about criminal and antisocial matters in the area. Currently Tony has also been supplying the Waverley details so that these can be circulated to NHW Coordinators in the Waverley Area.  As of this week we have PC Jim Lavery at Godalming compiling this data for Waverley. Jim is on lighter duties currently due to a health reason, but we still are looking for our own volunteers 3 would be the ideal number to share the responsibilities.


Tony also explained that we can assist our watch members by asking the members to make some efforts to safeguard their homes, sheds, vehicles cycles and other valuables with special markings, photos, etc. The fear of Cyber Crime is widely held by most of us and we could assist more vulnerable members of the community to maybe to be more skeptical and take  more care on the Internet and not to be caught out. Cyber Crime is growing at an incredible rate everywhere and no amount of policing can arrest all of us out of this problem we must try to be as secure as possible.









Martin Stilwell Surrey MSA & Woking Borough MSA .


Martin Spoke about the Community Engagement strategy for Waverley Borough. An important part of this strategy is the use of “In the Know” which is an electronic form of communication with the public and Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinators to disseminate current and relevant information to the community and hopefully encourage feedback which will help and support us.

Martin also discussed additional ways of interacting with Watch Members and members of the public and stated that one area in the Woking Borough was runnina a test using Facebook . This had already brought many new members within range.

A New Social Media site was also discussed TRIGVE,  Martin said that the Police have researched this site and it looks promising. A large NHW Watch (100 +) in the Godalming area is already using this as a communication tool very successfully and more tests will take place soon to see if it is suitable for Waverley.

Meeting Summary          Malcolm Taylor

The meeting then developed into an open discussion session, with the following main issues that need to be addressed.

Some NHW members stated that they felt that they had been somewhat letdown and neglected by the Police for far too long and now all of a sudden things were changing which had made some of the attendees in their words  “Angry” and they felt that they needed a senior police official to fully explain how the Police were going to operate in the future and how this will help regarding their NHW.

Malcolm said that he understood the feeling in the meeting and was sure that ALL ATTENDEES were really committed to NHW and would contact the Waverley inspector and ask if he would attend and speak at future Coordinators meeting in Farnham in say September/October when hopefully the fences could be mended and we could then move forward together.

With this in mind NHW, Coordinator Mike Ellis generously offered to host that meeting if it can be arranged in the Forty Degrees Youth Club in Farnham FOC Thanks Mike.

If this can be arranged I will of course circulate the full information regarding that meeting in due course

The meeting closed at 9.20 pm  :- Malcolm Taylor Thanked everyone that attended for their interest and commitment

Malcolm Taylor  Waverley NHW MSA Mobile 07885 722501


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